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If PKR is no longer suitable, then we should be quite open to sailing our own ship. Sailing our own ship as in the form of a party? In recent times, you have been a vocal critic of the prime minister. Let's talk about how your relationship with Tatoo Sree Anwar Ibrahim has shifted over the years and and what's brought us to this moment in time. So my relationship with Tatoo Sree Anwar was, you know, did not change much over the years. I think it was a question of how much he could stomach me as he became prime minister. No I have always been this rude. People say that I'm rude, you no. I have depends how you see it. I think Not the hallows, gentlemen. Well, you know, I I I feel that it's always more efficient to say what you meant especially in politics. While politicians don't like, frankness, you no. Speaking up, your mind or what you see is what you get. These are all, taboos with Malaysian politicians. I feel over the years, voters actually appreciate it more. And over the years, enough people accepted me, and valued my presence in politics for being precisely frank. I think before the two three Anwar became the prime minister, he tolerated that. He felt that, you know, I was an asset. He recognized my ability to mobilize people, to to play with issues, and, my focus on any issues that I decided to champion. It was an asset to BKR. And when he was in opposition, he didn't have many, assistance. There were not many people who do so called his better or who would help him convert or influence voters to vote for PKR. That changed the moment he became prime minister because when he became a prime minister, you have the whole government machinery at your disposal. So I could see even from the first few months in office that, political parties, especially PTR and to a certain extent, PH, were quickly relegated to just an accessory as far as the dispute and why it's concerned. The the the attitude changed because he now had access to all these resources that, he didn't have before. What's next for you? What are you thinking? Give us a hint. No. No. I I think it's quite obvious that we intend to continue the journey. And I say when I say we, I I don't just mean me. I think a lot of people in PKR, feel that, you know, the process for reform the the continuous push for iterations of reform, being the vanguard of moral conscience in society is an unfinished business. It has to continue. And to leave it, to, the younger generation who may have to start from scratch is not fair. If PKR is no longer suitable or does not welcome that idea and, idealism anymore, then, we should be quite open to, sailing our own ship as it fits. So Sailing our own ship as in the form of a party? Well, that's that's where I rank, you know, give us about two two, three months to sort it out, you know, because, we are looking at numbers. We are looking at possibilities, different possibilities of, political configurations, but I think you will hear a lot more from us beyond June. And, for those who feel that, you know, this is the end. I don't have a choice who to worse for. Because I I think that's how I ended up in politics in 1998. I wanted an option. I wanted a choice. So I wanted to make sure that the younger generation especially is not denied that choice. Whether we win, whether we lose, whether we make any difference, I think, you know, only time can tell.