Interview clip analyzing political powerfrom @bfmradio

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Azambaki proved himself to be useful to No and after a while, you know, they become quite intertwined. I observe this phenomenon. I think although I only served in government for two and a half years, that was enough for me to really understand how power works in Putrajaya. So every time there is a change of government, a new prime minister comes in, you know, a set of new ministers come in. Tier survivors in Putrajaya will always go and throw themselves at the new master's feet and they have learned how to do this so many years that they will somehow make themselves extremely useful to you And by becoming useful to you, eventually familiarity, you know, you become intertwined with them. And I think that's how this whole Azambaki and, Anwar Ibrahim got where he is today. You know Azambaki proved himself to be useful to Anwar in one way or another and after a while you know they become quite intertwined and I've seen different examples of that as well. So that's where the frustrations eventually build up because if we want to do reform, some of these legacies of Putrajaya, of the power structure in Putrajaya, we must confront. And these legacies are embodied in the kind of people, in the kind of characters that we have moving from bad, administration to another. So the failure of the tertiary Anwar to confront this basically culminates in the kind of frustration that Yes after this as well about this.