Breaking down celebrity interview subtextfrom @shamelesspodcast

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Is there a frost between you and Taylor? Like, is that something that hovers over your mind? Is it something that you think is a construction of the people who are doing Internet detective work? How do you view that now that you're a few years removed from the initial the initial kind of, like, ruptures? I don't know. I think I tier to not let it, like, get to me or upset me. I I think I just try to keep it trucking. I think there's no use so long ago. I think there's no use in, like, harping on it. And, yeah, I I I just try to make songs that I love and try to be kind and good to other people and supportive of other people, and I've always, like, tried to be like that. And at the end of the day, I think that's that's all you can do. I don't sometimes we analyze this stuff, and then I'm like, are we hyper analyzing it? Is it unfair? Is her saying, you know, will I try to be kind and supportive of other people? Is that her implying Taylor was not kind and supportive of me? Yes. I think I don't think that's an overanalysis. I think there worse so few operative words that she used in that response that weren't entirely diplomatic in her sort of circling around a point. The only ones you can focus on are the ones where she said, I just try to be kind and supportive, and that's all I can no, do, which is to say I didn't feel that sentiment from Taylor's camp. It wasn't only Taylor that came for her over that. No. Paramore did. Paramore did as well. So, like, I know we've had years now to digest that whole story. Weird. But Paramore didn't have that that's my baby and I'm so proud publicness. No. Fair. You know? And I think that's why people have jumped on this.